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Why we should stay in Afghanistan

ARTICLE: Pashtuns and Pakistanis, by Reuel Marc Gerecht, The Weekly Standard, 09/21/2009, Volume 015, Issue 01

The key stuff, for me, mentions the fallout of the choice to let Afghanistan fall completely into civil war:

But there are many compelling reasons to keep fighting in Afghanistan. Most important among them is that an American withdrawal would return Afghanistan to civil war and reinforce frightful trends in Pakistan. In an Afghan civil conflict pitting the Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Shiite Hazaras against the Pashtuns, the United States would have to choose the anti-Pashtun, anti-Pakistani side to protect against the possibility that the Taliban, a Pashtun-based movement, would again gain the upper hand. Remember Western insouciance about Afghanistan between 1994 and 1996, as the Taliban gradually gained ground? This time around, Washington would be obliged to intervene. It could not simply assume, as many suggest, that Pashtun jealousies, tribal differences, and powerful competing warlords would be enough to thwart a neo-Taliban advance. But successfully intervening in Pashtun politics from "over the horizon," with American troops no longer significantly deployed in Afghanistan, would be impossible. The Taliban currently have the offensive advantage throughout most of the Pashtun regions with U.S. forces active in the country; imagine U.S. forces gone.

Choosing sides would immediately thrust us into conflict with Islamabad, which remains a staunch and, at times, nefarious defender of Afghan Pashtun interests. Such a collision between Washington and Islamabad would be awful, fortifying Islamic militancy within Pakistan and placing al Qaeda and its allies, more clearly than ever before, on the same side as the Pakistani military establishment, which is only now getting serious about countering the radical Islamic threat at home.

The terrorist ramifications of this for us and for India could be enormous. Britain's domestic intelligence service, MI5, is working around the clock to monitor and thwart terrorist plots emanating from Muslim militants on the subcontinent. Great Britain does not receive the credit it deserves for doing the heavy lifting in building a security barrier against subcontinent Muslim radicals and their militant brethren resident in Europe. Even more than the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency, MI5 is America's frontline defense against mass-casualty terrorism.

Pakistan, not the Arab Middle East, is where extreme Islamic militancy probably has the most growth potential. And Britain's intelligence officers are quick to confess that they could not do their work without cooperation on the Pakistani side, which today, even after Islamic militants have lethally targeted members of Islamabad's intelligence and security services, remains complicated and problematic. Pakistan has been loath to sever long-standing ties to the Afghan and Pakistani Pashtun militant groups with which it has dealt for years. This is particularly true for those who come under the Taliban umbrella. Mullah Omar, the Taliban's divinely anointed founding father, is more or less an honored guest of Islamabad, holding court in Pakistan's western province of Baluchistan. Imagine scenarios where the Pakistanis receive requests for help from the British and the Americans, even as Western powers are aiding Afghanistan's bitterly anti-Pakistani non-Pashtun minorities against pro-Taliban Pashtuns.

Point being, until we're really willing to demonize Pakistan and risk everything that entails, we stay in Afghanistan.

But, in the end, I still think we need to choose India first--no matter the consequences.

(Via WPR Media Roundup)

Reader Comments (7)

You believe we should stay in Afghanistan (as do I), but at what cost? Do you believe that we should be sending more soldiers in like General McChrystal asked for today? Won't that, theoretically, cause more bad than good? Afghanistan is a nation that has always hated foreigners on their land. Wouldn't it be better to go back to the initial strategy of small, special forces sized units that handle things?
September 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJacob
Documents like General McChrystal's report never land in the press without a reason. Is the General a brave, honest officer telling the truth and giving the warning that is needed? Is he trying to play the "CYA" game to protect his reputation? Is Westmoreland's ghost hovering over him? I don't know. I do know this....there is a limit on the number of troops we can deploy in this conflict. It is not and will not be preceived as WWII. There is no "massed" enemy. The American public could "see" the massed German divisons, it could "see" the Japanese aircraft carriers and battleships. All we ever see of the enemy in that cold desolate part of the world is the photo of some miserable looking mountain fighter, shod in sandals, with plasti-cuffs on his wrists, surrounded by tall American soldiers who are bristling with so much equipment and armour that they look like Imperial Storm Troopers out of some Star Wars episode. (The sun glasses don't help.) The coverage of the anniversary of 911 was back on page 8 of our local newspaper. We are forgetting what this is all about. Strategy and local political solutions are the answer in wars of insurgency. More troops and more troops does not work. Faced with far superior numbers...the insurgents simply withdraw. They wait and they watch and they bide their time. It has always been so.
September 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTed O'Connor
Um I really think we should stay, but please no more Gerecht. I mean, his "Counter Terrorism Myth" plus his "the Iranians won't respond at all if we bomb them" commentary kinda disqualifies him from inclusion in intelligent discourse on these subjects.
September 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDirk2112
What would Rudyard Kipling recommend?
September 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterLouis Heberlein
That's a reasonable argument and handy for countering the pull em out crowds. Couple that with small girls in class and I see valid reasons for the engagement to continue.

But that needs to be articulated more clearly.

Its one thing for General McChrystal's report to ' fall' into the hands of a journalist, and don't get me wrong strategically leaked info is all good and well, but clear articulation from the President. I know he's got his hands full with health care, but a articulation of the long term goals and an understanding of the long haul needs to be heard.
September 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Sutton
Dag Hammarskjold's diary, was published under the title 'Markings.'

This was a 1957 entry:

"The most dangerous of all moral dilemmas: when we are obliged to conceal the truth in order to help the truth to be victorious. If this should at any time become our duty in the role assigned us by fate, how strait must be our path at all times if we are not to perish."
September 22, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterLouis Heberlein
I agree that we should remain in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think we should have a massive surge of coalition forces (including Afghan/Iraqi troops that we have trained) and gain the trust of the Iraqi public. That way they can provide needed information on the insurgents whereabouts. This will send a forceful message to all terrorists/would be terrorists in that area and may prevent terrorist ideas from spreading. After we have dealt with the insurgents and freed Afghanistan/Iraq we can directly focus on finding Osama Bin Laden.
March 31, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterBrady the future seal

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