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God--for lack of a better word--is good ‚Ķ for business

OP-ED: "Want More Growth in China? Have Faith," by Rob Moll, Wall Street Journal, 8 August 2008, p. W9.

Fascinating op-ed.

One of the most important dissenting voices in China today belongs to Peter Zhao, a Communist Party member and adviser to the Chinese Central Committee. Mr. Zhao is among a group of Chinese intellectuals who look to the West to find the key to economic success. Mr. Zhao in particular believes that Christianity and the ethical system based upon its teachings are the reason that Western countries dominate the global economy. "The strong U.S. economy is just on the surface," he says. "The backbone is the moral foundation."

Big subject for Great Powers: our competitive religious landscape is a huge asset in economic terms, allowing for a demand-led religious environment—as in, ask and you shall receive . . . the religion you need most right now given your age, circumstances, economic trajectory, whatever.

It is THE social and economic and political lubricant.

Hitchens will never get that.

Reader Comments (14)

Indeed Hitchens will never get it, nor would he even try, globalization and it's relationship to our culture is not his forte. Although given the opportunity to confront this issue, I'd be he'd argue historical precedent to claim that Christianity has done more harm than good to create an atmosphere of productivity, economic growth, and advancement. Unfortunately Hitchens is often an absolutist and I'd doubt he'd give even token praise for the facets of Christianity that have, in fact, been beneficial in creating the described work ethic.
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdaskro
Could it be John Calvin's concept of the "elect"? Those who succeed on earth during their lifetimes demonstrate their evidence of God's election as the saved (from hell). Well a great motivator but possible that the exploitation of the resources of a continent and world and immigration of European scientists at a critical time have more to do with it. Current Wall Street problems may be evidence that US is not the 'elected.' Being only somewhat facetious of course, just reflecting on fact that maybe we did not WIN the Cold War but others lost. Just as WWI and WWII had Europe losing and Japan of course, and our Winning. Let's see how the next 100 years plays out. I would argue as Tom does that US Civil War has merit as start of globalization and US predominance, but probably the putting of 2M boots on the ground in eighteen months in Europe in WWI had more to do with it. And of course events of August 1945 even more. But remains to be seen as to whether 9/11/01 started or ended some aspects of globalization. And yes agree with Tom that it was a blessing in disguise and wake up call. Just hope the BFA is read by the candidates.
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWilliam R. Cumming
This is astute.

Chinese business practices are based on a web of family-based contacts.

The Western model, and especially the Anglo-American model, are based no a higher radius of trust beyond the kin network. This allows human capital to be better allocated and reduces transaction costs. This may well have been based on Christianity, in particular in Western Christianity, where the existence of an institutional church outside of, or alongside of, political authority allowed a degree of freedom unknown anywhere else. I tend to think Christianity was the major factor, but it is hard or impossible to prove. Even so, it would have provided a marginal advantage compounded over two millenia.

Whether China can replicate this extremely deeply rooted and long-developing process in anything like "real time" remains to be seen. The Chinese certainly are good at doing very quickly things that took other countries decades or centuries. If anybody can build-in Christianity and scale up quickly, it will be the Chinese.

If China were to become predominantly Christian, this would be a world-historic event on an immense scale, with inconceivable consequences.
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLexington Green
Hitchens may get CSPAN type TV guest shots by that style of discussion.

Adam Smith did have a pragmatic religious slant to his 1776 work. He said the market forces would do good for most, and provide more national resources to help the poor. Before exploring practical economic ideas he had studied and taught courses on the practical philosophy of Christian morals.

One of his background remarks leading to his 1776 work was the time he noticed that jobs for the unemployed came when people with money to invest came around.

Does Zhao quote Smith?
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLouis Heberlein
definitely agree with daskro. a work ethic backed by a (somewhat) secular court of law (plus the fear of consequences if ignored) is what puts the western economy on top
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterpmsuds
This sort of religious determinism is claptrap. Japan still has the second largest economy in the world and it is not a Christian country. The major economies of Western Europe are becoming less and less Christian. Historically, European capitalism probably got its initial boost through connections with the Muslim and Jewish civilizations of Moorish Spain, transported via the Netherlands, the first real capitalist power; if anything, Christianity was a drag on early capitalist development. India's booming economy has not been accompanied by any increase in Christianity. Mr. Zhao's analysis of America is off-base and I don't think he really understands America. The most aggressively "Christian" parts of the country tend to be the most economically backward. He may have seen several churches near Harvard Square, but from what I know of Cambridge MA, I doubt that the level of church attendance in the community was significant.If the point is that religious freedom, and the separation of the religious and political spheres of life, is conducive to economic development, then I certainly agree with that. Religious freedom in America really got its start in the money-making culture of New Amsterdam, which opened its doors to anybody who was good at making money, including a large number of Jews and even a good number of Muslims. Religious freedom in China is not the same thing as Christianization, which seems to be what this article is advocating. China has a rich religious heritage independent of Christianity, much of which does not require belief in God or gods. Ending the holdover of the Marxist straitjacket on religious freedom would certainly be an extremely positive development in China. Mead's "God and Gold" has some excellent discussions on the relationship between capitalism and religion, tracing English success not just to Christianity, but to the peculiar sort of laid back, non-dogmatic approach to Christianity that evolved in England after 1688.As for Hitchens, his problem is that he does not acknowledge that atheism, or materialism which I think is a better term, is itself a religion. If it provides him with inspiration and meaning in his life, great. But if he thinks that his belief in materialism makes him more rational or otherwise superior to others, not so great.
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterstuart abrams
There is a psychological take on this that carefully and clearly uses Hegel's thinking to connect technology beyond the trajectory of Christianity having gotten stuck as it dogmatized and failed to include the thrust of science. This thought puts technology at the center of faith and shows how the sublation process works in our modern lives to gather us all into itself for reasons quite beyond usual secular/religious conversation. Best articulated in Technology and the Soul: from the Nuclear Bomb to the World Wide Web.
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKim McD
two easy ways to be foolish: underestimate and overestimate the importance of Christianity in the history of this country.
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous
In my view, religion is a technology in itself, as it provides a common values system and social protocols. Moreover, it offers psychological security and provides answers to some of life's more intractable questions. Whether or not there is any reality to this system is another question. It seems to me that these are simply convenient combination of facet and fantasy that offers human beings a certain type of mind-games that shape society and individuals in certain ways.

With respect to concrete reality, the prominent Asian philosophies and religions do tend to be more reality-based than Christianity. Take Confucianism for example: it provides probably the most direct social instruction of any religious/philosophical script. That is not to say that such instructions are not part of other religions, but that they are more implicit in the text.

In regards to China in particular, the state religion seems to be a combination of nationalism and Chinese culture. The Chinese culture element is quite interesting because it plays on a peculiar sense of cultural identity that cuts deeply through Chinese society. There are all sorts of facts and historical claims (e.g. inventing paper) that may or may not be true, but everyone accepts them as fact. Furthermore, race, ethnicity, cultural identity and nationality are regarded as equivalent, which is why you will meet ethnic Chinese who have been outside of China for generations and who may not speak Chinese but will still identify themselves as Chinese. Moreover, on the mainland, this tendency is heavily reinforced through the educational system, the media, and even corporate marketing. Naturally, the government and state media are very adept on playing these attributes.
September 15, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGreg
Couldn't disagree more WRT "lubricant" analysis. Religion tends to ossify things and often forces people to make economic decisions that are not in their best interests, reducing efficiencies. Look at how Islam has been a ball around the neck of about 1/6th of the world's population for roughly 800 years, with nearly all popular interpretations making modernization impossible.

Religious people can make money. Secularists can be poor. But, like its relationship with morality, religion has only a passing affiliation.
September 16, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAndrew in Baghdad
"...Religion tends to ossify things..."

It is not possible to generalize meaningfully at this level. Islam is not Christianity is not Buddhism, etc. And each of these large, old and influential bodies of thought, prayer and practice have taken many different forms over the centuries and in different places. The Calvinism of Calvin's own Geneva, of Amsterdam in the Dutch Golden Age and in the USA in Michigan or in Tennessee in 2008 are all different, though related.

More specifically, religion is very often a dynamic force, as history has repeatedly shown. I will also say that this is particularly true of Christianity, as a matter of historical record, a fact beyond the scope of an already overlong comment on Tom's blog.

Additionally, people live within a moral framework, however they articulate it to themselves. The religions of the world over the centuries have provided various distinct moral frameworks. The economic and political and legal order exists within that framework, which is itself evolving over time.

The economic order does not and cannot supply its own moral framework. No less a libertarian than Hayek himself said this. He correctly observed that capitalism can only function, and even survive, by drawing on a moral order that it did not create and cannot replace with its own resources.

The Chinese leadership are very astute. They see the growing "demand" for religion in an increasingly wealthy country, and they want to channel that in ways that are stabilizing rather than destabilizing, prosperity-enhancing, and which serve the Party and the regime's interests. The problem is that religion is a force far beyond mere politics and economics, and it is rarely an "instrument" that can be controlled by the state.
September 16, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLexington Green
Sean -You are right. What America is has been shaped enormously by the fact that most of its inhabitants are Christians, for both good and ill. My view is just that the attributes I for one find most appealing about America - opportunity and openness - could be achieved even if America had been settled by non-Christians. I say let China be China. I am very excited to see what a distinctly Chinese capitalist civilization will look like in a few decades (or an Indian one or a Russian one, etc.) That's sort of what attracted me to Barnett's "blueprint" in the first place.
September 16, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterstuart abrams
Stuart: the Chinese will be Chinese. and yes we should let them. it will be interesting to see, as civil rights improve, if more of them choose Christianity for themselves.
September 16, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous
It isn't just religion that gets distorted and misused. Frenchman Destute de Tracy tried to use logic and intellect to show his people how to undergo a necessary political and economic transformation. He got physical and emotional hell from both the old conservative crowd and the new extremist radicals. Eventually he published an important book on dealing correctly with transformations. Jefferson translated it to help Americans understand how to deal with our transformation. He used the title Political Economy. Tracy had coined the term 'ideology' as a process by which complex ideas could be reduced to the grasp of common people so they could participate in the process of decisions and change in their nation. Napoleon ridiculed the idea of ideology and said it would just be a tool used to trick and exploit the people. He proved his point by using it that way to trick his people into risky dumb decisions that took decades to correct. John Adams liked Tracy's overall work, but he noted Napoleon's insight on the ideology technique. Then Jefferson and Adams watched and wrote each other as France went through the trauma of good ideas going astray. Today the word ideology is used to describe the thinking of the dumb guys on the other side of an issue.

The point is that it wasn't just religious thinking that got distorted and misused both by accident, and by clever scheming leaders.

http://www.econlib.org/library/Tracy/DestuttdeTracyBio.html
September 17, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLouis Heberlein

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