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4:45AM

Watching Ahmadinejad at the U.N.

Reminds me of how, every few years or so, America's entire civilization is almost brought down by some shock comic/show that has a ton of people up in arms.

They come, they go. We tend to dress them up with far more perceived power than they ever truly wield.

And when it's a savvy politician (which Ahmadinejad truly is) with a gift for inflammatory rhetoric, we lap up the propaganda, letting little men play our big nation for fools.

Because this dynamic is so encouraged by Israel and Saudi Arabia, it would seem we have a critical mass for whipping the American public--or just enough of it--into the requisite war frenzy. I am not naive about that dynamic. It's the way our republic works and always has. I supported it completely on Saddam, but that was because, as I wrote in the original Esquire article, that choice would force America to finally take strategic ownership of both the region and the Gap at large, and no matter how painful our first forays are, that decision had to be made eventually.

But now in, we have to play the board as we find it. Iran's rise and reach for the bomb are hardly surprising, nor is the Shia revival. Both must either be accommodated or we'll have to commit ourselves to Iran's takedown and remaking, and the truth is, we simply cannot extend ourselves that extra step in our current international isolation (thanks to Bush). You might not want to hear that, but there it is.

So we'll be forced to compromise, as will the Saudis and Israelis, or they'll simply be forced to live in more danger, like Europe was forced to do for a solid quarter century after WWII.

Why? Because Iran's takedown is simply too much for India, China and Russia to accept right now, especially with this administration. Our trust factor around this planet is incredibly low. Bush has spent his political capital and spent it badly.

Supposedly Bush's team advises leading presidential candidates on Iraq to make sure they don't box themselves in--just in case they win. In my opinion, those candidates should be mentoring Bush on Iran, so he doesn't do anything stupid that boxes them--and our nation--into strategic tensions with rising New Core powers that we do not need.

Meanwhile, those of us who see the soft kill option working best on Iran make our own efforts in that direction. When you think effects-based operations, your possible list of weapons expands dramatically.

Reader Comments (10)

soft kill, NO SANCTIONS OF CONSUMER GOODS, MYSPACE PUSH WITH YOUTH, CULTERAL EXHCHANGE PROGRAMS EITHER UNILATERALLY OR BETWEEN USA/IRAN COLLEGES, IPODS, DISCUSSION-EVANGEL OF FREEDOM OF CHOICES, ONCE THEY GET WESTERN GOODS IN MASS THEOCRACY IS F&*CKED....COUPLE WITH INSIDE DEMOCRACY GROUPS WITH ARMS/PROXY AS NEEDED.
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDan Hare
MYspace, IPODS, flooding of US/western consumer goods, Restrict Visa of elites/govt/,Proxy weapons to the north Iranian in conjuction with inside cooperation with dissentent parliament and exile Shah corps, along with element of military we have communication with for INTERNAL PRESSURE.
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDan Hare
If we can only get away from the cowboys. Ahmadinejad was treated without any semblance of civility by his Columbia University host. A clumsy censor stopped the translation of A’s Holocaust remarks. The media all have A denying the existence of the Holocaust. While the truth is that he did not deny the happening but called for further research. Could that research include the IBM or the Church’s role in the Holocaust? 1

The problem here is that the current state of worldwide communications. While most people here rely on the major media rather than the source itself, the rest of the world can look at the original sources. Other can hear A’s speech and Bollinger’s introduction and judge for themselves. Does anyone know that A invited the entire Columbia faculty to visit any university in Iran and this fact was not reported? The forced conclusion from this is that the US media does not tell the truth.

Without cowboys muscling major media outlets, Columbia University and even C-SPAN. The world may have seen an America which respects and reports truth.

All of which has its ironies. Someone could suggest to A that since WW2, all nations that have cooperated with the US benefited. None became vassal states and all became more prosperous. In Dr. Barnett’s term it pays to be in the Core.



1 See Hitler’s Pope by John Campbell and IBM and the Holocaust by Edwin Black
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJ Canepa
Yes the media has made Mr. Ahmadinejad about 100 feet tall. The UN appearance gave him some credibility, after all he is. the legitimate representative of a sovereign state. The Colombia thing was more like the Jerry Springer show. Nice touch by the school...invite the guy to speak...then insult him. I guess the President of Colombia found out that the folks in New York tend to support Israel over Iran. What a surprise. But there is a somber note to this. Iran's face to the world is Mr. Ahmadinejad. He talks about "Wiping Israel off the map", he lies through his teeth about their attempts to obtain the bomb, and he stands there in the year 2007 and says "There are no homosexuals in Iran". This would be cause for concern of and by itself. Add to that the fact that we ourselves have a leader who just stated during a press conference that "Mandela is dead" and our Air Force can't tell a nuclear tipped cruise missile from a set of hub caps.
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterTed O'Connor
Hi Tom --

A couple of things.

First, what is "just enough" of the American public in this case? Remember there's plenty of Bush-cynicism here, too -- not as much as in Russia, but probably more than in India. My impression at the time was that building support for the last war was not as easy as people seem to think it was in retrospect and the people who were badgerd into supporting that effort despite their doubts are now experiencing some serious buyer's remorse. So given a more skeptial public and smarter opposition both at home and abroad, can they reach the magic number?

Second, you earlier lamented that Israel & Saudi Arabia were willing to fight "down to the last American", but here say they will be forced to compromise. That point could be either very reassuring or very ominous, depending on when everyone realizes they'll be forced to compromise. How is that looking?
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMartel
While the common wisdom seems to be that Bush is responsible for our Isolation, and that may very well be true, I think a different case can also be entertained.

That is, the oil for food scandal is the source of our isolation. Every country involved in that scandal (save Australia, a minor player I believe) was against the Iraq incursion. Their vocalizations of other reasons (Besides wanting to keep the back dealing secret and continung) not to support the war seems to have kicked the global anti-american dissaffected-in-wait peeps up a notch and gave them the entré to go whole hog into Neocon Hegemony Agenda mode. Which certainly resonates wherever Soviet-twisted leftism has been sown.

And the not-unrelated interest of many countries around the world to keep on good terms with oil-producing Middle Eastern countries, no matter what they do, is another cause for isolation. If we are against the oil suppliers, other nations will be glad to use that fact to isolate us further from the pipeline.

I tend to view the blame Bush view of this as a distilation of a number of complex factors that, for the sake of politics, has been bumper-stickered down to "Bush is a stubborn cowboy who has isolated America... and oh by the way, vote for me!"

I could be wrong though.
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterkev fors
Too bad Ahmad didn't do the wreath laying thing at Ground Zero. It would have been a good dry run for his tearful visits in Iran to their bombed out nuke sites.
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBruce Sterling
Dan: yes, but not in all caps, please

kev: though you have a point on Oil for Food, the Bush admin's incompetency and unnecessary unilateralism cannot be explained away thereby.
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous
I am surprised that no one has commented on the similarity between Ahmadinejad and the Americian Religious Right. The speech was full of religious language, replete with pseudo-scientific statements, he even swung at the anti-gay curve ball thrown at him. If you wonder why things are going so badly around the world ... you just look at these Theocrats vs Theocrats battles that suck up all the oxygen. Where are the diplomats?

Good grief, how ironic that it was the people here with the American version of Ahmadinejad's views that were outraged at him being allowed to speak. Being gracious hosts and asking incisive questions would have been a much better tack. Instead we got Spy vs Spy.
September 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChristopher Thompson
Is his speech a microcosm of Iran? I'm still having problems getting past his remark "There are no homosexuals in Iran." Does he really believe this statement, despite the amount of AIDS drugs imported in Iran? Should I, as a listener, also treat other statements throught the same lens? So, when he says Iran has no nuclear weapons development, should I just evaluate the accuracy of this statement the same as the homosexual statement.His subsequent question to the press, asking for the addresses of homosexuals in Iran, even scares me more, especially since two of my friends in Iran were arreseted on 9/13/2001 for holding a candlelight vigil for the 9/11 victims and nobody has seen them since.
September 27, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJeff Barr

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