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On Iranian seizure of UK troops

Count me among those who see this as a tit-for-tat on the recent sanctions announcement, plus the non-talks with US at regional Iraq conference.

Iran wants our attention and this trolley car came down the street, so they jumped on.

For the hard-liners with Ahmadinejad, they hope we'll bite on the "act of war" hyperbole that naturally flows from our neocons.

For the non-hardliners, they're hoping they can force talks by striking against our proxy (UK) instead of us.

Me? I expect Bush and Co. to screw this up royally or simply use it as a pretext for striking--perhaps employing a proxy.

But this was inevitable once we started arresting Iran's people in Iraq. Conflation, pure and simple. Like with Hezbollah last August, Iran's intent on proving it can conflate the region's various tensions at will, as always, striking against our proxies.

Reader Comments (12)

I read recently where you advised people to not limit themselves to reading from sources that merely confirm their own preconceptions. I found that to be wonderful advice and is one of the reasons I read your blog. You make me think rather than react -- for the most part. This post of yours however is most disappointing because it seems that you are only interested in taking a gratuitous slap at Bush. Iran has been pulling this stuff for 30 years and we're supposed to what, call a regional conference? You say it's a retaliation for our taking Iranians in Iraq? First of all, what should we have done with Iranian Revolutionary Guards caught in concert with the enemy in a warzone? Give them a stern talking to and escort them to the border? And in the second place, Iran took Brits, not Americans. If this is not an act of war, then what do you call it, a diplomatic dispute? This is not Bush's call to screw up, but Blair's, unless you too believe that Blair only does Bush's bidding.

I admire your intellect greatly, and will continue to expand my own thinking by reading your insights, but really Tom, this was just disappointing snark.
March 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJohn McNamara
Dear Thomas,I believe you are right on with you analysis of the Iranian potential.

As I see it, the neocons want access to and control of both the Iraqi and Iranian oil to prevent others from gaining leverage with the oil to use against the US oil companies. The apparent threat to the world of loose nukes in Iran is a cover for all the other posturing. If loose nukes were of any concern to the neocons, Cheney wouldn't have outed Valerie Plame. They know that Iran is rich enough to buy some nukes from black market sources sooner or later.

I don't see the neocons worrying about Israel either. Israel is only of interest as a Middle East base. Neocons care about as much about Israel adn they care about the rapper, Ice T.

Profits for the Blackwater type contractors and their financial support for the Bush regime is what they are really interested in. Rumsfeld gutted the US Army while creating scores of private contract mailita.

When will America learn how many billions are being paid from black funds compared with the Pentagon budget for the contractors. America is being raped financially by the schemes of Cheney and Rumsfeld's pentagon and no bid contracts to cronies paid by a Republican dominated GSA.

When will China swicth to Euros and apply pressure to the entire US economy? After all they are financing these neocon 'war games for profit'. How pissed will china be when the neocons declare America is bankrupt and unable to repay the billions?
March 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRobert tite
OK, so going kinetic on a future ally is probably contraindicated … but so is letting a current allies’ people sit in the clink for 400+ days … so what’s the operational implementation of the strategy?
March 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Knott
I bet someone wants a price for dissapearing a number of Iranians. I up the wager - it means cleaning out unwanted visitors, in Oman, right at the choke point.
March 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCitSAR
I have a hard time with the facts on this one. Wasn't the original report that the Brits boarded a dhow?

The UN mandate gives Britain the right to board Arab sail boats?

The Iranian ships in the vicinity were there without the knowledge of the Royal Navy. I am not a Navy guy, but is this possible with today's equipment?
March 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJ Canepa
R. tite said, "As I see it, the neocons want access to and control of both the Iraqi and Iranian oil to prevent others from gaining leverage with the oil to use against the US oil companies."

And the question is: Where is the evidence for that? How much oil are we getting from Iran and Iraq? When will we have this complete control over their oil? What American oil companies are profiting from Iraqi and Iranian oil?

When someone makes claims about strategy and tactics, it lends credence to the comment if there is some kind of evidence offered.

"When will China swicth to Euros and apply pressure to the entire US economy?"

I'll tell you when. When Intel raises chip prices to apply pressure to Dell in an attempt to ruin their very best customer.
March 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJimmy J
To J Canepa,

Yes, the UK can board all vessels in Iraqi territorial waters under the UN mandate. And that's the whole dispute: where were the UK sailors at the time of boarding and capture? In whose territorial waters? That's why you see British admirals explaining with big charts the position of the UK ship. However, see the USS Vincennes incident where no one seemed to have kept track of where they were exactly....
March 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKenneth Manusama
Mr. Manasuma,

1. Dr. Barnett, being both knowledgeable and discreet, nevertheless, by his comment was not taken in by the propagandists. He knows that the world does not now need an apparent manufactured crisis2. The original reports did say the Brits indeed boarded a dhow http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2007/03/15-british-sailors-held-by-iran.html3. I would question Britain’s UN mandate, as I do not recall the UN ever agreeing to permit the use of force in Iraq by Britain or any other country. Perhaps then they were operating under the Divine Right of Kings, as in 1812.4. The correct way to capture a dhow was illustrated by the US Navy in 2003. http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=11182 Please note the command and control then and the lack of it now. The USS Vincennes incident in 1988 has little relevance here
March 29, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJ Canepa
I am left in wonder. Saddam didnt believe anyone would act - bad assumption. The Iranians seem to believe the same. Taunting, which is what they seem to be doing, will create a jingoist point of view - except on "THE VIEW'.

The very few Iranians I have read say "Get rid of the Mullahs and the Guard -then LEAVE. We will clean up the mess ourselves..."
March 29, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCitSAR
Dear J Canepa,

2. I did not question that fact, only the claim of where the Brits were at when they boarded the dhow.3. Check out UN Security Council resolution 1546 (2004), operative paragraph 10 and Annex. The coalition forces in Iraq now are operating as a UN authorised and Iraqi invited Multinational Force, which is authorised to 'use all necessary means' for certain tasks, i.e. the use of force for certain tasks...4. The USS Vincennes also wandered, unintentionally, into Iranian territorial waters.
March 29, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKenneth Manusama
Why all the baiting? Isnt it a bit dangerous? Or, is there a fight for control Guard vs Mullahs occuring?
March 29, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCitSAR
There are some very interesting opinions out there. Only the short/sighted & ignorant NeoCons would tactically categorize this incident as an act of war. It's very widely viewed as an act of desperation. From the constant stream of propaganda that Iran is flooding into their media channels, one would be lead to believe the whole thing was premeditated as a proxy move against the US. The mullahs are taking desperate measures to try to quell their populations unrest. The British boarded a ship flying an Indian flag - perfectly within their right. There are GPS coordinates to prove the location of the British vessels where indeed in Iraqi waters. The amateurish way that the Iranians are dealing with British attempts at diplomacy and the videos and letters written by the captured sailors/marines as tool for propaganda - that only those who are ill-informed will actually take to heart such utter manipulation shows that the Iranians are backed into a corner because of UN sanctions and Russia slowly realizing they are in a car that's heading off a cliff.Bush & Co aren't stupid enough to let this become a proxy move - they will let the British lead the way.As far as the comments made by Robert Tite - well what can you say? He can't seem to rid himself of the kool-aid mustache.
March 30, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterT. Pamelia

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